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chairmen that all look like those guys. now, the chief strategist of romney's campaign, stu stevens, is describing why he lost. he wrote in "the washington post" today, quote, there was a time not so long ago when the problems of the democratic party revolved around being too liberal and too dependent on minorities. obama turned those problems into advantages and rode that strategy to victory. but he was a charismatic african-american president with a billion dollars, no primary, and media that often felt morally conflicted about being critical. how easy is that to replicate? in other words, the election was an anomaly giving republicans little reason to worry in the future. this morning stevens said mitt romney's ideas were right on, as he puts it. he's getting cool, he's right on in his talking. let's listen. >> i think that the ideas carried the day for us and that success that we had, though it obviously wasn't enough to win the race, was based on the candidate mitt romney and on his ideas. >> well, using that '60s language of right on, he isn't quite. he continued the outreach
. this afternoon the president hosted his vanquished rival, mitt romney. no word yet on if mr. romney found the cookies up to his rig rouse standards or how many white house beers the president decided to drink. we're also holding out hope that a savvy waiter or waitress caught at least 47% of the lunch on cell phone video. while in washington romney also met with his former running mate, the marathoner paul ryan, and offered a few kind words about him to the press. >> mr. romney, how was your meeting with mr. ryan today? was it nice to see him? >> that's a greet friend. good to be with him. >> good to be with him? >> always great to see paul ryan. >> while today's lunch was perhaps an opportunity to shake after a hard fought campaign, not everybody was feeling so friendly. take for example john bain mother earlier today slammed the president for campaign style events on the fiscal cliff. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it
't hit the jackpot you could be a millionaire. >> excellent. talk about awkward. mitt romney and president obama set to break bread at the white house in a couple of hours. but why? details live on washington on the meeting we were all hoping to be a fly on the wall at. >> how a simple phototurned a cop into a viral angel. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> gretchen: good morning, everybody. so everyone should give up because this is the winning ticket right here. >> steve: we didn't give up. >> brian: you get it from missouri. >> gretchen: there are millionaires in new york and new jersey and connecticut. so who knows? stay tuned if you live in those three states. >> brian: it is a happy day for me, we can no longer talk about powerball. i am so tired of the story. give the people the billions. >> steve: now they are part of the one percent that are demonized by the democrats. >> gretchen: two people waking up winning in the 550 million powerball jackpot. did you realize tickets are up to two dollars a piece. i went to buy five. they changed it
for romney, showing he's bipartisan. john boehner now making the fairness argument? it's a shocking turn of events but a testament to the fact that the republicans know optics are not in their favor. >> here's where it looks like it's heading. republicans float i think a face-saver in the new york times. quote, if no deal can be struck to avert the bush era tax cuts and onset of deep across the board spending cuts gop leadership could foresee taking up and passing legislation this month to extend the tax cuts for the middle class and then resume the bitter fight over spending and taxes as the nation approaches the next hard deadline and statutory barring. that's the debt ceiling coming up later this year, early part of next year. here's the question right now, governor. it seems that's a face saver because they say taxes deferred or delayed are taxes avoided. if they say we'll get to defending the rich later. we'll let their taxes go up in january. it seems that's a face-saver even if they say we'll get to it later. >> well, i think what happens, chris, though is think about the issue of
the media played this race as a nail-biter where, in fact, i think romney is going to win by quite a bit. >> bill: why didn't they just listen to me? it will be the biggest surprise. how about the electoral vote column? you need 270. will romney get even close to that? >> my own view is that romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes. he will win florida virginia, north carolina indiana. these are states that obama won last time. iowa. ohio. new hampshire. pennsylvania. wisconsin. and minnesota. >> bill: he said 325. he was only off by 1. right? because the winner got 326. oops, that's right the winner was barack obama not mitt romney. so what about karl rove and dick morris? michael calderone is the senior media reporter for "huffington post" joining us on our news line this morning. michael, we're not going to see him for awhile, huh? >> yes. i think -- i know you're missing him. but i don't think we'll see these guys for a little while. >> bill: here's the deal. i was chatting with some of our
lost. that was your position before the election, and you lost. mitt romney campaigned on keeping the tax cuts for the wealthy, and he lost. and he promised to do what john boehner is doing right now, and he lost. how about some respect for the electorate? how about seeing what the 2012 presidential debate was about? obama championed tax fairness and won. republicans championed protecting that 2%, ignoring the 47% he talked about, and they lost. today boehner said he's willing to raise revenues by the same amount he agreed to back in august of 2011, the last time they had this fight. again, he's willing to act like the election never happened. no wonder. again, he lost. joining me is joy reid of the grio and howard fineman of the "huffington post." joy, you're chuckling because it is weirdly true. it's almost like groundhog day, this guy, boehner, he's not a bad guy, but he's operating on a bad thought here. the election didn't happen. >> it's incredible. it's amazing watching john boehner reach for anything, simpson/bowles which, by the way, assumed that the tax cuts for the top
today at the white house. none other than mitt romney himself. tagg, by the way was not invited. there will be no reporters or no photographs allowed either and of course, no alcohol. the white house would not say what their luncheon agenda is but they did release the luncheon menu. mitt romney will be served a healthy helping of crow. and it's about time. all right. we'll talk about that and a whole lot more here. a lot more serious stuff here on the "full court press" this morning. first, standing by with all of the latest, lisa ferguson out in los angeles. hi lisa. good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. the president does have quite an interesting schedule with his lunch guest but first off he's meeting with the american nobel prize winners in the oval office and then as bill mentioned he is inviting mitt romney to lunch in the private dining room. bill is not the only one making jokes about what's on the menu. new york daily news said no sour grapes. politico's headline reads friendship not on toda
romney has been spotted at disneyland and pumping his own gas. anything to keep busy. what the former romneys are doing about their future. also triumph in the face of tragedy. a victory for the secretary of state chiefs one day after a tragic murder/suicide. big question for you. should president obama stand his ground on tax cuts for the wealthy even if it means going over the cliff. tweet me @thomasaroberts. the story keeps changing. so i'm not listening... to anyone but myself. i know better nutrition when i see it: great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like natural grains. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. search great grains and see for yourself. for multi grain flakes that are an excellent source of fiber try great grains banana nut crunch and cranberry almond crunch. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our optional better car replace
romney, who ran on the platform of not raising taxes lost and the speaker knows he has to do it. the problem is, his members ran on the platform opposing tax increases and they won. so, he's got the challenge of trying to persuade people who are against tax increases who ran and won on that platform doing what the speaker knows ultimately has to be done and that's raise revenue from the top 2% of this deal. >> correct me if i'm wrong but based on what i read and what i heard with regards to the math. if you close loopholes and limit deductions, you still cannot generate the kind of revenue that would arrive at 1.6 or even $1.2 trillion. is that correct? >> i'm not sure about that. if you do loopholes and you do tax rate increases, i believe you can -- >> rate increases, yes, but not deductions. >> rate increases. >> so, the rates have to go up. >> that's correct. i think they do. if you want to get to the number the president's talking or even close to it. the loopholes. if we can clean up the tax code, everyone is in favor of that. making it simpler, clearer and it probably won
've learned over the years in advertising. >> what's interesting is the romney campaign didn't do it. >> i was about to say, josh, how did that compare with the beached whale of the rnc and the romney campaign officially known as orca? you know, give me some sense here that we had a clue, but i guess not, right? >> well, no. i mean, i think we're talking about two different things here. the obama campaign in general when it came to technology was years more advanced, i'm afraid, than anything the rnc or romney did. maybe that has something to do with your departure, michael. >> i would think so. we can have that conversation, too. >> the obama campaign, not only did they have a staff of 20 people writing just these e-mails, they were sort of monkeys chained to typewriters or computers, i guess. they also had an entire digital analytics team that would run controlled a.b. testing of each of these different e-mails. they would find the one that worked, and then they would blast that out to their e-mail list of tens of millions of supporters who dutifully would chip in more and more money. i
to allow governor romney to allow the state of pennsylvania, done. >> that's pretty clear. only this year bill clinton talked about what he called the blatant voter suppression efforts in florida. let's listen. >> how much will the vote be lessened or reduced by the fact that in florida, except for four counties, the pre-election voting, advance voting, has been cut down to eight days and doesn't include the sunday before the election is an arrow aimed straight at the heart of the african-american churches who pull up the church buses on the sunday before election and take elderly people who have no cars or people who are disabled to the polls so they can vote. in my lifetime nobody has ever done anything quite this blatant. >> your thoughts about this whole thing. i have a lot of thoughts about this, but you are running potentially for rnc chair against reince priebus. your thoughts about suppression, dog whistle, your thoughts generally. a politician, republican, african-american. you have it all going. >> i have seen you in the evening talk about the dog whistles and that's quite fasci
is that 2012 was very much a beauty contest between mitt romney and barack obama. all of the issues that mattered so much in the 2010 election like health care, we didn't have that conversation. we think it should be a choice between fiscal responsibility and patient control over health care versus a bigger government solution. i think we could win that fight and i think 2014 is going to be more about issues and there's opportunities, i think, to increase the gains that we made in 2010. >> well, midterm elections are one thing and what -- and it's possible you could win arguments, but when more people vote, is it harder to win this conservative argument? >> well, mitt romney was hardly part of this new generation of fiscally responsible republicans that we've been repopulating the party with, but if you look forward to 2016, you're talking about some pretty interesting young dynamic people like marco rubio and rand paul and maybe scott walker. these are all political leaders in the republican party that weren't there when mitt romney and john mccain before him got into the queue and
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about what mitt romney has been up to including having a non-home-cooked thanksgiving dinner. he ordered in from boston market for the family saying there were too many kids running around to be cooking. >> peter: how the mighty have fallen. >> photographed pumping his gas since he has no entourage to the pump it for him. >> a sad story, nothing to do. >> peter: i don't feel that bad about it. hanging out with his car elevator taking rides. spiritists one of his many homes. >> the author of the hunger games trilogy is taking a break by writing a children's picture book an auto guy graphic piece about coping with her father's military service in vietnam as told through pictures. >> bill: all right, dan, thank you. all of the talk on the sunday shows yesterday and talk here in washington is still about negotiations to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. i think it's time to call it out. i am tired of all of the crap. let's go to the chase this morning and say there is only one person standing in the way of resolving this fiscal cliff, john boehner.
're just going to throw out the deduction and not specify it, that would be the only legacy of mitt romney that we're talking about right now. we all joked about how he was totally uninfluential in this party. this has stuck. didn't work for romney. people were not interested in that. i don't really see what interest the white house has in making a deal. so far all the public polling makes it look like, again, this could change, but all the public polling makes it look if we go over the cliff the republicans will be blamed and they're the ones being recalcitrant and the white house can make a deal on their terms because they won. >> in terms of who's going to get blamed if we go over the cliff, ari, is there a risk as the republicans put forth a plan f you're john public, does that seem like a reasonable offer? i don't know. they're playing ball. do the democrats risk getting blamed if we go over the fiscal cliff now that there is a counter offer from the gop? >> that's the interesting question. connects with what ezra was talking about. do the actual sacrifices happen in your backyard and
romney tried to make the case that occurred as is making. it has failed miserably. it has failed in history. if it fails from campaign economics. the bush tax cuts disproportionately benefit high- income people. if we get rid of those we will save a lot of money and there is minimal risk to the short term income. high income, whether you are with a wall street bond trader or a ceo of a corporation, they tend to be less vulnerable to the ups and downs of their income and middle class people. we need to support those people. that will lock in savings again. host: next caller. caller: why can't we do away with the federal reserve? if they don't have borrowing power, they do not have debt. that we cannot borrow money from china. let's do away with it. everybody buckle down for a decade and let's get this thing came down. host: let's go to our next caller in massachusetts. the democrats line. caller: looking at the fiscal cliff, we go back to 2001 with the lowering of the tax rates, meant to create jobs. but in the past 10 or 11 years, we have not had any job creation whatsoever. we k
obama. i really liked mitt romney. why do i have to pay less taxes than my friend from massachusetts? that really bugged me. host: that is stephen from connecticut. tyrone is a republican from the bronx. caller: i think hillary clinton would be an excellent candidate in 2016. i think she handled the middle eastern issue to the best of her ability. also, as far as the gop is concerned, i think she has made strides toward eliminating the tax spending through various commitments with private entities and organizations that are coming out of the woodwork. i was watching earlier today and what they were requesting from the white house was let's fix this problem by incorporating a small businesses and less government intervention to curb the deficit. it has been astronomical. then i heard barack obama say the way we are going to do it is by making more cuts in various ways. he was saying by making more cuts and the only people it is going to hurt is the working class and somewhat of the middle-class. he should mention the fact that out of control spending has a lot to do with the credit ca
they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's missed that message. that's what they need to turn to. >> it's going to be interesting to see how they do that and if ted cruz becomes sort of the force in this. what do you think? what's your gut, mike? >> he's already offering himself -- he clearly wants to play that role. >> yeah. >> he said last night, i'm something that's not supposed to exist, a hispanic republican. so ted cruz is one of the most interesting parts of this reinvention of the republican party. another part of it, the new emphasis on immigration. >> yes. >> the effort to reach hispanics. we have a story up today saying that already republicans are going to pieces over this. that
. >> that was romney's plan. lower tax rates, cut some deductions and what are you doing. >> bowles simpson, a democrat. he did the deal with the newt gingrich and bill clinton. you c . stuart: stop smiling. >> every democrat sitting right% there has said the same thing. remember bill clinton. he raised tax rates and it sent off a boom. you don't agree with that? >> i do agree with it, but he also reformed welfare. he was also willing to rein in modestly entitlements and do things on a comprehensive basis, it worked and paid huge dividends. stuart: i've got 30 seconds. >> yes. stuart: are we going to get a fiscal cliff avoid dan deal? >> we may get some form of a deal. we are not going to get a real deal. i think the economy is going to be hurt and i think both sides, especially the president deserve blame. stuart: who will get the blame? >> the republicans clearly are going to get the blame and hurting themselves. stuart: but we may go into a much slower economy and hurts the president. >> bad news for the president and even worse news for the the american people. stuart: i agree with that. all right,
of the senate? he said if we controlled the senate and romney were president, it would be a different question altogether. >> bret: juan, you know, some people were critical. saying he did it for the money. you know, leaving the senate. and byron saying being in the minority is a bummer. others say this is a brilliant move. he can influence the party. eric said minut demint's power increased immensely. >> bret: do you agree with that? >> it's true. by taking over heritage he has now access to money in terms of the major donors to the party if a way that could be critical to defining the future of the party and people who are seeking power to idea of heritage, for the conservative movement. also, i think that, you know, the tea party, which i think is struggling right now. they like jim demint. they are going to listen to jim demint. jim demint has positioned himself acutely here. the question for me, this is what byron was talking about. i'm surprised you would give up power with an elected seat in the senate. they don't come along often. the idea that mr. scott might get, a black republican,
of the election there. the mitt romney people pretty much told a lot of us they were confident it was going to be a long night and that they would win. i want to read you something from the new republic about team romney's internal polling. says the biggest flaw in their polling was the failure to predict the demographic composition of the electorate. the people who showed up to vote on november 6 were younger and less white than team romney anticipated and far more democratic as a result. so i want to ask you, erick, is this sort of a misunderstanding generally that republicans have to address the next time they go into an election about who the voters are going to the polls? >> oh, i don't think it's just a republican problem. i think if you look at rasmussen, gallup and a number of other pollsters out there, they all got it wrong. i think i was one of the few people on the right saying the polls weren't wrong and e vis rated by friends for saying that. at some point you have to realize the data's not lying. >> let me just say, i want to sort of unravel that a bit. we know gallup certainl
of the year i will be surprised. yes "time" nominated mitt romney but he he has no chance. neither does hillary clinton who is somewhat responsible for the libyan mess. bill clinton is on the list. i would vote for jay-z over the president. no to bill clinton sea brilliant man. why would he be person of the year? for what. you can see we are living in a very shallow time in america. pardon the pun. truth is, we have very few dynamic leaders in this country where is abe lincoln when we need him. like 1860 america is a divided nation there is a culture war raging. we need a person to bring us together to solve complicated problems and stop all the nonsense. lincoln could have done it. republic-- strike that gist and kirsten powers the democrat and fox news analyst. who is your person of the year? >> while using "time" magazine's criteria which doesn't mean it's necessarily a person you think is good or bad or but someone who we spent a lot of time talking about who has a real impact this year i think would be mohammed morsi who is on their list of people to choose from the first democrati
of an obama recovery. and now that governor romney is no longer and the electoral politics are behind us they're really in a box. on the one hand they now are tied to the idea that they have to invest in something that's pro-growth. but this idea that you repeal obama care and we get growth -- >> why is it unreasonable for the gop to want to extend the eligibility age for medicare, to want to fix colas for social security? these things have been around for a long time. >> because you're balancing the budget on the backs of vulnerable people. >> democrats have supported these kinds of things. they essentially want to means test medicare. i'm not sure i agree with this but they want a progressive shift in that. why is that a bad thing? >> going after seniors who are now eligible at 65 and bumping up the eligibility age when you're talking about people word in some cases long term unemployed, in jobs where they are making -- can't pay their bills. let's remember where this deficit came from. it came from the iraq war run off budget. it came from a financial crisis that rewarded a lot of executiv
perry wanted and was mocked for it. unfortunately by mitt romney. or the people that have been here 20 years as newt gingrich said put them on a path to citizenship. in other words the gop made a mockery out of dealing with hispanic immigrants and i think that's a crucial point in their defeat. >> there's no question that the way that the gop is approaching this immigration issue is similar to generations ago they approached affirmtive action with the black community. these are turn offs when you don't have a clear discussion what a low wage income earner needs. especially on this question because they have family members that are here illegally. larry that's not the major problem we're seeing today with the latino community and the hispanics especially those coming from mexico. this community of people of the last generation have come in and adopted this policy if you will that there's nothing wrong with government dependency. one question to say do they come in and work hard. they work hard and work hard at a low wage. they are open territory important the democrats to say let's unio
. but this also shows how far the gop has fallen. since mitt romney's big loss last month the gop is in trouble. like the jets. infighting and losses is a problem. while the republicans haven't quite experienced their own
, stuart, mitt romney and the republicans beat up on president obama for the last three years for cutting medicare at $716 billion. he has already showed he is willing to take a big bite out of a major entitlement program. stuart: hold on a second. i do remember it. that is not reform. that is not reforming the structure of entitlement programs. that is the issue. >> i think the focus has been on medicare. the attention now needs to be on medicare inside the aca. there were large structural reforms in the way healthcare was playing out. in fact, last year, we had a slower rate of growth and health care spending that we have had in quite a time. whether president has proposed is part of the current negotiations is another $300 billion cut in medicare. stuart: that is a cut. you do understand, that what we really -- >> stuart, that just is not true. we have not seen them play out. certainly, we will have to be coming back every year. usually, through a committee process where people vote at the end of the day. the republicans decided to take another course around the debt ceiling. i do not
, fundamentally, is an awful lot like what mitt romney was talking about during the campaign. the deductions, for example, if we're going to get the $800 billion from, you can't -- they don't add up. you can't get there with those deductions. >> but it's also a lot like erskine bowles proposal before the simpson-bowles commission. because in other words it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is where the proposal -- >> -- >> listen that's a point. that's how extreme this is, bob. and -- >> in terms of -- does not have the rate reductions, does not convert medicare and does not convert medicaid to a voucher. it doesn't have the structural changes that are objectionable to the democrats. there's a lack of specifics here. but if i'm the president i'm thinking they're putting $800 billion on the table in removing deductions and exemptions i'm going to pocket that and add some of the additional revenue from rates i can get from allowing rates to expire. >> we're going to be talking to senator johnson this morning also xavier becerra about the details or lack of details in the two compet
it in the house races, and of course president obama and candidate governor romney discussed it again and again. my friend talks about a consensus. let me tell you the consensus. more than 60% of the people agree with president obama and the democrats that we ought to climb down off this fiscal cliff in the next five minutes and pass what the senate passed, which is to renew all the bush tax cuts and go back for those over 250,000 to the rates of bill clinton. that's what we passed here. that will bring us almost a trillion dollars over ten years. that will get us to climb down that cliff. then we have got other parts of the cliff, there's no question about it, the automatic sequester. i think it's easy to deal with that by bringing home some of the overseas account money and applying it to the sequester and getting rid of at least half of that sequester, maybe all of the sequester. but no, you're going to listen to these speeches every day about how we're obsessed with taxes. what are you talking about, obsessed with taxes? i'll tell you what i'm obsessed about. i'm obsessed with the fact that
if romney didn't win. this fiscal cliff negotiation seems doomed. am i being pessimistic? >> we're basically spending like europeans, but being taxed like americans. at some point you got to decide which you want. basically american government spending now is getting close to norwegian levels. and at that point, you can't have american tax levels. >> brian: what is their level? >> they spend 46% of gdp and people pay that. that's reflected in their taxes. america is basically borrowing $188 million every hour in washington. seven days a week, 24 hours a day, thanksgiving, ramadan, whatever. that gap cannot be closed by sticking to to the rich. >> brian: don't you think the president realizes that or do you think he fully realizes that in. >> oh, yeah, he does. this is the cunning thing. he's going to blame it on the rich, blame it on the republicans. but right now if you're just an average working guy with an average income, your taxes are going to go up because for him -- pour for the president, it's not about the economy. it's about government. it's about the size of government. not the ec
. but when marco rubio was giving his speech, he didn't mention the word "romney" once, and there was a message in that. and that was that he's turning the page. and so that passage that you were just talking to is his idea that there's a new conservatism that can appeal to more people -- that more people in society, people in even, say, the 47%, can be convinced that conservatives can help them. >> all right. mike allen. >> harold, would you like to crinkle up some more papers? >> i apologize. i was getting excited with this paper. learning how to fold. >> he was teaching him how to do origami. i thought it wasn't the right time. >> paper airplanes. very impressed with what i saw of marco rubio yesterday and how he handled the science question. he was light afoot. i thought he handle it had very well. >> ran the gauntlet of the mike allen primary, which is a key part of anyone getting elected president. but i'll say, you talk to republicans about 16 -- and obviously people are already talking about it -- on the broadcast on "way too early," hillary clinton, what people
that somebody could claim. this is an idea mitt romney had on the campaign, this idea that you cap the value at $30,000, say. if you live in an area with low housing prices, that probably would not affect you. if you live at new york, san francisco where your mortgage is more expensive, it would be easier to bump up against what the deduction cap would be. you might not be itemizing your tax returns at the end of every year. host: next call is mike on the democrat's line. are you there? caller: i have a question for you. i heard president obama is making cuts to medicare if his plan goes through. he wants to cut $400 billion in entitlements. i collect ssdi. i am disabled. these $40 billion cuts in entitlements, are they going to affect ssi, ssdi? guest: we do not know what the administration is talking about yet. that offer came from the administration on the hill yesterday. it was not specific. $400 billion is what we are looking at in entitlement savings and we're not sure if it is ssdi or how beneficiaries would be affected. host: children make up a lot of these credits. which of these ar
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